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In Canaanite Mythology El (god) was the father of mankind and creator of creatures. He was for all purposes, attributed as the god of the desert such as that given to Yaweh. While El, in the myths, did not appear to have omnipotence it is most likely that the Hebrews accepted this god as their chief god on the way towards monotheism. It could further be hypothesized that the omnipotent aspect was borrowed from the Hebrews affiliation with the Babylonians. In that mythology, Marduk became the supreme god, complete with artifacts of omnipotent powers. According to the Old Testament (if accepted as science fact) Noah and Abraham, both worshipped El, and other gods, until it was revealed that El stood alone. Yaweh, then took on the attributes of Marduk and El. It is unclear where the pre-Islamic pantheons fit into this, as the works have been destroyed or lost with the inception of Islam in Arabia. It is possible that those gods were somewhat similar to that of Canaanite gods, as Allah was the chief god among those peoples.

why do we have a "mythology" section now? this article is too long already. move to Elohim or YHWH, or, well, Mythology. dab 12:46, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I agree, this section would serve us better elsewhere. It should be merged tho, not deleted, of course! Sam Spade Arb Com election 15:47, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Allah = God?

In a religious studies class currently and reading the Qur'an. They do not choose to translate Allah into God, even though it should translate directly. Even speaking to them, they refer to the Christian god as "God" (even though they express that they are the same thing just one is 'misinterpreted) and their god as "Allah". Not sure if this has anything to do with anything, but it seems the definitions are missing something...

Jayon 16:46, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)

This is a difficult and involved topic. My POV (I am an inclusionist in the religious sense) is that most religions worship God, but simply under different names. Clearly, many disagree. Sam Spade Arb Com election 17:17, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- That is POV, of course. Many (such as those Muslim's in which I spoke) agree that they 'might' be the same, but that one was mistaken. "that most religions worship God, but simply under different names" could easily be taken offensive by some since 'God' is more a proper noun and is mostly associated with Western Religion. Granted in other languages it is the same 'Dios' and 'Deus' are just capitalizations of the word 'god', yet I have found that 'Allah' (even though spelled different) is still used there. It would seem like 'God' is a proper name for a diety that 'doesn't have a name' or believed to be 'beyond a name' or some such.
-Jayon 17:39, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)
For me, God = All, the absolute infinite, universal consciousness, the Atman, etc... Sam Spade Arb Com election 18:36, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Allah = God is standard Muslim doctrine, and good enough for this article. Dissenting voices can be included in Allah. Of course, Muslims will say that the Trinity was a terrible idea, but that doesn't change Allah = God. The Christians just got a muddled version :) dab 19:13, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)
There are those (and they are already mentioned in the article, or were) however who insist that only their church worships God, and that every other church, denomination and religion worships satan, ba'al, baphomet, or what-have-you. Read over a Chick tract some time ;) Sam Spade Arb Com election 19:26, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)

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